Holocaust Denial

A report in The Guardian on how some former members of the British Labour Party have attended events with holocaust deniers (I.E. with those who deny or greatly downplay the Jewish Holocaust), https://www.theguardian.com/news/2020/feb/22/uk-left-activists-at-far-right-events-antisemites-holocaust-deniers.

17 thoughts on “Holocaust Denial

  1. blindzanygirl

    I have just “watched” a prigramme on my Sky Go on my iPad about this, with Davud Baddiel, he is of course Jewish. I haven’t read this link yet but am about to. I think I have told you before about us being pursued by that Holicaust Denier in Lincoln. It is on the rise. Terrible.

    1. K Morris Poet Post author

      Thanks for your comment, Lorraine. I haven’t heard the documentary to which you refer, but I shall take a listen. Yes, I do remember you telling me about the holocaust denier you met in Lincoln. As you know, before the mass murder of Jews took place under the Final Solution, the use of gas was trialed on disabled people. The old poem has it “first they came for the Jews …”. In fact “first they came for the disabled”. That is, of course in no way to minimise the horrors of the Jewish Holocaust. Indeed the vast majority of those murdered by the Third Reich where Jews.

      1. blindzanygirl

        Yes Kevin, I know that poem. It is chilling. I still feel a chill when I think about the disabled. And also I am technically Hewish via my great grandmother. Though I was not brought up in it. It is just so horrufying to think of ut all.

      2. K Morris Poet Post author

        Its interesting to learn that you are technically Jewish due to your great grandmother Lorraine.

        I know 2 people who are half-Jewish. I wouldn’t have known of their ancestory had it not been for the fact that they told me of it.

        Best wishes, Kevin

      3. blindzanygirl

        I did not know of it until my grandmother)s brither told his daughter, who then told us. Apparently all the males in the family were curcuncised as he told his daughter that, also, he himsekf, the you gest child, was taken, every Saturday, to Vrinsby all dressed up. Grimsby synagogue was a very actuve ine. But my great grandmother did not ooenly oractise it. She and my great grandfather were ardent Primitive Methodists, as he got converted though he had never been Jewis and was not from Jewish stock. But as you know, Newushness is passed down through the female line. I have iften windered why. It is akk very interestung,

  2. floridaborne

    I’d say, “That is so ridiculous,” however; the way that history is presently being “reimagined” in movies and on TV leads me to believe the truth of this statement: If you tell a lie over and over again, people begin to believe it’s truth.

    My second husband’s mother was in the USA before WWII. After the war, she search for family and found that she, and her brother, were the only two people left. Hundreds of extended family that had lived in Hungary were missing or confirmed dead. And yet people want to believe the holocaust never happened. I suppose if we can forget that 25 million Russians died (army and civilians) protecting their country, (thus overburdening German forces and making it possible to win against the Nazi’s) we may one day forget the near extinction of the Jewish people.

    Santayana said (and I paraphrase): Those who can’t remember the truth are condemned to repeat it. I often question the sanity of the human race if it’s true that insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result.

    1. K Morris Poet Post author

      Many thanks for your thoughtful comments. I do sometimes wonder whether those peddling the lie that the Holocaust never happened actually believe their own propaganda. Of course the Holocaust/Final Solution did happen and its vital that people (particularly children) are taught about the horrors of Nazism/Neo Nazism. You are right that the Russians thought bravely against Nazi Germany and their sacrifice deserves to be acknowledged. Its also important that people learn about the murderous regime of Stalin, the Gulags and the purges etc. There is an excellent book, “Hitler and Stalin”, by the historian Alan Bullock which shows the similarities between the 2 regimes. It is remarkable that the Soviet forces where able to fight as they did, given the murder of their commanders by Stalin. But the Russians did have a great incentive to fight as the Nazis viewed Slavs as inferior peoples who would be used by the Reich as slave labour.

      1. floridaborne

        My mom worked in the POW camp in Papago Park in Arizona. I have a copy of a book given to the German prisoners. NONE of them knew about the concentration camps or holocaust. There are pictures of bodies stacked one atop another. None of the Nazi soldiers knew of it. Many were crying about it, and several wanted to stay in the USA.

    2. K Morris Poet Post author

      Its interesting to hear about the book given to the German prisoners of war and that your mother worked in a POW camp. It would be fascinating if one could track down a copy of that book which, doubtless exists somewhere in an archive.

    1. K Morris Poet Post author

      Thanks for your comment, Gabriela. As another person commenting here says, its interesting how the far-left and the far-right often seem to come together in denying the holocaust. Stalin became increasingly paranoid about Jewish conspiracies. Its also interesting that the full title of the Nazi Party was the National Socialist German Workers Party. Admittedly Hitler purged the “Socialist” SA in the Night of the Long Knives, but there are still Third Position Neo-Nazi organisations who look to the left of the NSDAP for inspiration. Of course anti-semitism exists across the political spectrum and there have been examples of members of the far-right National Front infiltrating the British Conservative Party, and the Monday Club was prescribed by the Conservatives, under Ian Duncan Smith’s leadership due to concerns about it’s views on race and immigration.


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